In Luke 14:28, this signifies to determine how one may procure for oneself interior truths. (Arcana Coelestia 4599[5])

In Revelation 18:19, this signifies the belief that for certain temporary actions people could receive spiritual blessings and rewards after death. (Apocalypse Revealed 789)

5752. 'And spoke those words to them' means the influx of this thing. This is clear from the meaning of 'speaking' as an influx, dealt with in 2951, 3037, 5481, and from the meaning of 'words' as things, for in the original language the expression 'word' is also used to mean 'thing'.