4679. 'His brothers saw' means things that are matters of faith, and in the proximate sense, the descendants of Jacob. This is clear from the meaning of 'seeing' as recognizing and understanding, dealt with in 2150, 2325, 2807, 3764, 3863, and from the representation of 'Joseph's brothers' as things that are matters of faith. For in the present chapter 'Joseph' represents the Lord's Divine Spiritual or Divine Truth, while 'his brothers' represents the Church which turns aside from charity to faith, then to faith separated from charity, and after that to falsities, see above in 4665, 4671. From this it is clear that by 'Joseph's brothers' here are meant things that are matters of faith; and because the descendants of Jacob were by nature such, these are meant in the proximate sense.

2325. 'And Lot saw' means [their] conscience - that is to say, the conscience of those with whom the good of charity exists but whose worship is external. This becomes clear from the meaning of 'seeing'. 'Seeing' in the Word means understanding, see 897, 1584, 1806, 1807, 2150. In the internal sense however 'seeing' means having faith, a meaning which will in the Lord's Divine mercy be discussed at Genesis 29:32. The reason why conscience is meant here is that people who have faith have conscience as well. Conscience is inseparable from faith, so inseparable in fact that it makes no difference whether you speak of faith or of conscience. By faith is meant faith through which charity comes, and which derives from charity. This being so, it is charity itself, for faith without charity is not faith at all. And just as faith is not possible without charity, neither is conscience possible without it.