In Isaiah 29:9, the phrase 'to be drunken without wine' points to people who don't care about the Word or the truths of faith, and thus have no inclination to know any thing about faith. (Arcana Coelestia 1072[6])

(References: Arcana Coelestia 1072 [1-6]; Isaiah 29)

'Penuel,' as in Genesis 32, signifies a state of truth in good.

(References: Arcana Coelestia 4301)