Apocalypse Explained #254
254. As I also overcame, and sit with my Father in his throne. That this signifies comparatively as the Divine good is united with the Divine truth in heaven, is evident from the signification of overcoming, when said of the Lord Himself, as being to unite Divine good with Divine truth. And as this was effected by temptations and victories, therefore it is said, "as I overcame." (That the Lord united Divine good with Divine truth by temptations admitted into His Human, and by continual victories then, may be seen in The Doctrine of the New Jerusalem 201, 293, 302). The reason why sitting with my Father in his throne, signifies Divine good united with Divine truth in heaven, is that by Father, when mentioned by the Lord, is meant the Divine good which was in Him from conception, and by Son, the Divine truth, each in heaven; and by throne is meant heaven, as above. This Divine of the Lord in the heavens is called the Divine truth, but it is the Divine good united to the Divine truth. (That this is the case may be seen in the work, Heaven and Hell 13, 133, 139, 140).
[2] The reason why a comparison is made of the members of the church with the Lord himself, when it is said, "He that overcometh, to him will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and sit with my Father in his throne" is, that the life of the Lord upon earth was an example according to which the members of the church were to live, as the Lord Himself also teaches in John:
"I have given unto you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them" (13:15, 17).
This is why the Lord Himself, in places, makes a comparison between Himself and His disciples, as in John:
Jesus said, "As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you; continue ye in my love, as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love" (15:9, 10).
Again:
"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I sent them into the world" (17:16, 18).
Again:
"As my Father hath sent me, even so send I you" (20:21).
Again:
"The glory which thou gavest me, I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one, I in them, and thou in me. Father, I will that they also whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me. I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it, that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them" (17:22-24, 26).
The reason why the Lord spoke of His conjunction with men as of His conjunction with the Father, that is, of His Human with the Divine which was in Himself, is that the Lord is not conjoined with man's proprium, but with what is His own. The Lord removes man's proprium, and gives from His own, and in that He dwells. That this is the case is also known in the church, as is clear from the prayer used by, and the exhortation addressed to, those who approach the Sacrament of the Supper, in which are these words: "If with a true penitent heart and lively faith we receive that holy Sacrament, for then we spiritually eat the flesh of Christ, and drink his blood, then we dwell in Christ, and Christ in us: we are one with Christ, and Christ with us." And in John 6:56. (But these things may be better comprehended from what is shown in the work, Heaven and Hell, n. 11, 12).
Hence, then, because the Divine of the Lord received by angels and men constitutes heaven and the church in them, they are one with the Lord, as He and the Father are one.
[3] In order that it may be yet more fully known how is to be understood what the Lord says, that He sits with His Father in His throne, it is to be noted that the throne of God denotes heaven, as was shown in the preceding article, also that heaven is heaven from the Divine proceeding from the Lord, which is called Divine truth, as was said above. The Lord Himself is not in heaven, but is above the heavens, and appears to those who are in the heavens as a Sun. The reason why the Lord appears as a Sun is because He is Divine love, and Divine love appears to the angels as solar fire; whence also sacred fire in the Word signifies Love Divine. From the Lord as a Sun proceed light and heat: the light which proceeds, because it is spiritual light, is Divine truth; and the heat, because it is spiritual heat, is Divine good. The latter, namely, the Divine good, is meant by the Father in heaven. (That the Lord is the Sun of heaven, and that the light and heat proceeding therefrom are the Divine truth united with the Divine good, may be seen in the work, Heaven and Hell 116-125, also n. 126-140: and that heaven is heaven from the Divine which proceeds from the Lord, n. 7-12). It is therefore evident what is meant by Father in the heavens, and heavenly Father, as in Matthew:
Do good to your enemies, "that ye may be the sons of your Father which is in the heavens" (5:44, 45).
Again:
"Be ye perfect, as your Father in the heavens is perfect" (verse 48).
Again:
"You who are evil, know to give good gifts to your children; how much more shall your Father who is in the heavens give good things to them that ask him" (7:11).
Again:
"He that doeth the will of my Father who is in the heavens, shall enter into the kingdom of the heavens" (7:21).
Again:
"Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up" (15:13).
Also in many other passages, in Matthew 5:16:6:1, 6, 8; 12:50; 16:17; 18:14, 19, 35; Mark 9:25, 26; Luke 11:13.
[4] That the Divine good is meant by the Father is also evident from this passage in Matthew:
"Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for their angels do always behold the face of my Father who is in the heavens" (18:10).
By their beholding the face of their Father who is in the heavens is signified that they receive Divine good from the Lord. That they do not actually see His face is evident from the words of the Lord in John:
"No one hath seen the Father at any time" (1:18; 5:37; 6:46).
The same is evident from this passage in Matthew:
"Call no man your father upon the earth, for one is your Father who is in the heavens" (23:9).
That no man is forbidden to call his father upon earth "father" is evident, nor is it here forbidden by the Lord; but this was said because by Father is meant the Divine good, and there is none good except the one God (19:17). The reason why the Lord spoke thus is that by the Father in the Word of both Testaments is meant, in the spiritual sense, the Divine good, as may be seen, Arcana Coelestia 3703, 5902, 6050, 7833, 7834; and also heaven and the church as to good, Arcana Coelestia 2691, 2717, 3703, 5581, 8897; and by Father, when mentioned by the Lord, the Divine good of His Divine love, Arcana Coelestia 2803, 3704, 7499, 8328, 8897).
John 6
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After these things, Jesus went away to the other side of the sea of Galilee, which is also called the Sea of Tiberias.
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A great multitude followed him, because they saw his signs which he did on those who were sick.
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Jesus went up into the mountain, and he sat there with his disciples.
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Now the Passover, the feast of the Jews, was at hand.
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Jesus therefore lifting up his eyes, and seeing that a great multitude was coming to him, said to Philip, "Where are we to buy bread, that these may eat?"
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This he said to test him, for he himself knew what he would do.
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Philip answered him, "Two hundred denarii worth of bread is not sufficient for them, that everyone of them may receive a little."
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One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, said to him,
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"There is a boy here who has five barley loaves and two fish, but what are these among so many?"
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Jesus said, "Have the people sit down." Now there was much grass in that place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand.
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Jesus took the loaves; and having given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to those who were sitting down; likewise also of the fish as much as they desired.
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When they were filled, he said to his disciples, "Gather up the broken pieces which are left over, that nothing be lost."
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So they gathered them up, and filled twelve baskets with broken pieces from the five barley loaves, which were left over by those who had eaten.
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When therefore the people saw the sign which Jesus did, they said, "This is truly the prophet who comes into the world."
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Jesus therefore, perceiving that they were about to come and take him by force, to make him king, withdrew again to the mountain by himself.
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When evening came, his disciples went down to the sea,
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and they entered into the boat, and were going over the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and Jesus had not come to them.
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The sea was tossed by a great wind blowing.
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When therefore they had rowed about twenty-five or thirty stadia, they saw Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing near to the boat; and they were afraid.
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But he said to them, "It is I. Don't be afraid."
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They were willing therefore to receive him into the boat. Immediately the boat was at the land where they were going.
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On the next day, the multitude that stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was no other boat there, except the one in which his disciples had embarked, and that Jesus hadn't entered with his disciples into the boat, but his disciples had gone away alone.
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However boats from Tiberias came near to the place where they ate the bread after the Lord had given thanks.
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When the multitude therefore saw that Jesus wasn't there, nor his disciples, they themselves got into the boats, and came to Capernaum, seeking Jesus.
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When they found him on the other side of the sea, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you come here?"
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Jesus answered them, "Most certainly I tell you, you seek me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate of the loaves, and were filled.
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Don't work for the food which perishes, but for the food which remains to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For God the Father has sealed him."
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They said therefore to him, "What must we do, that we may work the works of God?"
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Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."
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They said therefore to him, "What then do you do for a sign, that we may see, and believe you? What work do you do?
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Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness. As it is written, 'He gave them bread out of heaven to eat.'"
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Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly, I tell you, it wasn't Moses who gave you the bread out of heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread out of heaven.
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For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world."
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They said therefore to him, "Lord, always give us this bread."
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Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will not be hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.
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But I told you that you have seen me, and yet you don't believe.
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All those who the Father gives me will come to me. Him who comes to me I will in no way throw out.
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For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me.
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This is the will of my Father who sent me, that of all he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise him up at the last day.
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This is the will of the one who sent me, that everyone who sees the Son, and believes in him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day."
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The Jews therefore murmured concerning him, because he said, "I am the bread which came down out of heaven."
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They said, "Isn't this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then does he say, 'I have come down out of heaven?'"
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Therefore Jesus answered them, "Don't murmur among yourselves.
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No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up in the last day.
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It is written in the prophets, 'They will all be taught by God.' Therefore everyone who hears from the Father, and has learned, comes to me.
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Not that anyone has seen the Father, except he who is from God. He has seen the Father.
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Most certainly, I tell you, he who believes in me has eternal life.
49
Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.
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This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, that anyone may eat of it and not die.
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I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh."
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The Jews therefore contended with one another, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"
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Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don't have life in yourselves.
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He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
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For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
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He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me, and I in him.
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As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father; so he who feeds on me, he will also live because of me.
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This is the bread which came down out of heaven--not as our fathers ate the manna, and died. He who eats this bread will live forever."
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He said these things in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
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Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said, "This is a hard saying! Who can listen to it?"
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But Jesus knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at this, said to them, "Does this cause you to stumble?
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Then what if you would see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
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It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
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But there are some of you who don't believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who didn't believe, and who it was who would betray him.
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He said, "For this cause have I said to you that no one can come to me, unless it is given to him by my Father."
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At this, many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
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Jesus said therefore to the twelve, "You don't also want to go away, do you?"
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Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life.
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We have come to believe and know that you are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
70
Jesus answered them, "Didn't I choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?"
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Now he spoke of Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, for it was he who would betray him, being one of the twelve.
