4071. 'And I will be with you' means that in that case it will be Divine. This is clear from the fact that the speaker was Jehovah, and 'Jehovah' is used to mean the Lord, as above in 4068, and so to mean the Divine. 'Being with him' in whom this is - that is, one who is this - means being Divine. The highest sense, whose subject is the Lord, is such that separate entities are seen in the sense of the letter but a single entity in the highest internal sense.

4068. 'And Jehovah said to Jacob' means the Lord's perception from the Divine. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in historical narratives of the Word as perceiving, dealt with in 1791, 1815, 1819, 1822, 1898, 1919, 2080, 2619, 2862, 3395, 3509; and 'Jehovah' means the Lord, see 1343, 1736, 1793, 2921, 3023, 3035. From all this it is evident that 'Jehovah said' means the Lord's perception from the Divine.