2108. 'Ishmael his son' means those who become rational from truths of faith. This is clear from the representation here of 'Ishmael' as those who become rational, that is, spiritual, from truth, also dealt with above, in 2078, 2087, 2088.

2087. 'As for Ishmael, I have heard you' means that people rational from truth are to be saved. This is clear from the representation of 'Ishmael' here as those people who are rational from truth, that is, who are spiritual, dealt with above in 2078. And that they are to be saved is clear from the meaning of 'hearing you', as may be seen without explanation.