10215. 'And Jehovah spoke to Moses, saying' means enlightenment from the Lord through the Word. This is clear from the meaning of 'speaking', when done by Jehovah to Moses, as enlightenment from the Lord through the Word; for 'Jehovah' in the Word is the Lord, and 'Moses' represents the Word. 'Speaking' means influx, perception, and instruction, 2951, 5481, 5743, 5797, 7226, 7241, 7270, 8127, 8128, 8221, 8262, 8660, and therefore also enlightenment since enlightenment is the influx, perception, and instruction people receive from the Lord when they read the Word.

'Jehovah' in the Word is the Lord, see the places referred to in 9373.

'Moses' is the Word in a representative sense, 9372.

The reason why these things are meant by 'Jehovah spoke to Moses' is that the perception of these words in heaven is not the same as that on earth. In heaven the words are perceived according to the internal sense, on earth according to the external sense; for in heaven everything is understood on a spiritual level, on earth on a natural level. That understanding on a spiritual level is arrived at instantaneously, without awareness of what people in the world understand in the external or literal sense. Angels in heaven live in this kind of association with people in the world, because then the whole of a person's thought flows in from the spiritual world, and the first origins of the person's thought are therefore spiritual, becoming natural in the external man through influx.

8660. 'And he said to Moses' means influx and resulting perception. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying', when Divine Good addresses Divine Truth regarding the arrangement of truths, as influx; and since influx is meant, perception is also meant because perception arises as a result of influx. For the meaning of 'saying' as influx on the part of the one who acts, and perception on the part of the one who receives, see 5743.