BaMidbar 20:1

Verse 1. But the man of the church, both as to the will and the understanding now passes into another state, which is one of the obscurity of the natural man arising from a tendency to defend the truth from selfish impulses, and yet, as regards the interiors, one of faith under the influence of the affection of truth, which is a state of contention about truths, in which merely natural faith ceases and is extinguished.