5308. 'And Pharaoh said to 'Joseph' means a perception Present in the natural but received from the celestial of the spiritual. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical narratives of the Word as perception, dealt with just above in 5306; from the representation of 'Pharaoh' as the natural, and from the representation of 'Joseph' as the celestial of the spiritual, both of which have often been dealt with already.

5306. 'And Pharaoh said to his servants' means the perception by the natural and of everything in it. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical narratives of the Word as perceiving, dealt with in 1791, 1815, 1819, 1822, 1898, 1919, 2080, 2061, 2238, 2619, 2862, 3395, 3509; from the representation of 'Pharaoh' as the natural, dealt with in 5079, 5080, 5095, 5160; and from the meaning of 'his servants' as everything in the natural, dealt with immediately above in 5305.