5597. 'And they said, The man questioned us closely about ourselves' means the clear perception this had regarding what existed within the natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'questioning' as perceiving another's thought, dealt with below; and from the representation of the ten sons of Jacob, to whom 'us' refers here, as the truths known to the Church which were present in the natural, dealt with in 5403, 5419, 5427, 5458, 5512. The reason 'questioning' means perceiving another's thought is that in heaven all thoughts are communicated, so clearly that no one needs to ask another what he thinks. This is why 'questioning' means perceiving another's thought; for things as they exist on earth become in the internal sense things as they exist in heaven.

5458. 'And Joseph said to them on the third day' means the perception of the celestial of the spiritual regarding those truths separated from itself, when completion is reached. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' as perception, dealt with in 1791, 1815, 1819, 1822, 1898, 1919, 2619, 3509; from the representation of 'the sons of Jacob' as the truths known to the Church in general, dealt with already, here those truths when separated from the celestial of the spiritual, 5436; from the representation of 'Joseph' as the celestial of the spiritual, also dealt with already; and from the meaning of 'on the third day' as the last phase when another state begins, dealt with in 5159, 5457, and so when completion is reached. From all this it is evident that 'Joseph said to them on the third day' means the perception of the celestial of the spiritual regarding those truths separated from itself, when completion is reached.