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Genesis 25:23

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23 And Jehovah saith to her, `Two nations [are] in thy womb, and Two peoples from thy bowels are parted; and the [one] people than the [other] people is stronger; and the elder doth serve the younger.'

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Ishmael

  

'Ishmael' signifies the Lord's merely human rational and rationality separate from good.

In Genesis 25:12, 'Ishmael' signifies the spiritual church.

(Odkazy: Arcana Coelestia 1944)


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Edom

  

'Edom' or 'Idumea,' as in Isaiah 34:5, signifies people who are in evil and falsities derived there.

(Odkazy: The Inner Meaning of the Prophets and Psalms 34)