Ishmael
'Ishmael' signifies the Lord's merely human rational and rationality separate from good.
In Genesis 25:12, 'Ishmael' signifies the spiritual church.
(Odkazy: Arcana Coelestia 1944)
Numbers 14:11-13
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Yahweh said to Moses, "How long will this people despise me? and how long will they not believe in me, for all the signs which I have worked among them?
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I will strike them with the pestilence, and disinherit them, and will make of you a nation greater and mightier than they."
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Moses said to Yahweh, "Then the Egyptians will hear it; for you brought up this people in your might from among them;