'Ishmael' signifies the Lord's merely human rational and rationality separate from good.

In Genesis 25:12, 'Ishmael' signifies the spiritual church.

(Odkazy: Arcana Coelestia 1944)

3334. 'And he rose up' means a consequent raising up. This is clear from the meaning of 'rising up' wherever it is used, as embodying a raising up, dealt with in 2401, 2785, 2912, 2927. A person is said to be raised up when he is being perfected as regards spiritual and celestial things, that is, as regards truth which belongs to faith, and as regards good which belongs to love and charity, 3171.