6507. 'And the Egyptians wept for him' means sadness on the part of the Church's factual knowledge. This is clear from the meaning of 'weeping' as the highest degree of sadness, and an action representing internal grief, dealt with in 3801, 4786; and from the representation of 'the Egyptians' as the Church's factual knowledge, dealt with in 4749, 4964, 4966. The sadness on the part of the Church's factual knowledge which is described by 'the Egyptians wept for Israel' does not mean sadness because of his death; that is the meaning in the literal sense. Rather the sadness meant here is sadness because the Church's good, represented by' Israel', had departed from the factual knowledge that forms the external level of the Church when it rose up from there to an internal level, the level of the good of truth. For it does not now see that knowledge present with itself, as it did before, but beneath itself. For when the truth of the spiritual Church becomes good, a reversal takes place, in that the person no longer sees truths from the point of view of truths but of good. This reversal has been discussed several times before. From this comes the sadness, which also arises from the fact that a different order is introduced at that time within the factual knowledge; and that is not accomplished without pain.

4749. 'Taking them down to Egypt' means teaching based on factual knowledge. This is clear from the meaning of 'Egypt' as facts, dealt with in 1164, 1165, 1462; and because 'spices, resin, and stacte' means interior truths based on the facts possessed by those in whom simple good is present, like that present in gentiles, therefore 'taking them down to that place' means receipt of teaching. The position is this: The facts meant by 'Egypt' are facts which contribute to spiritual life and correspond to spiritual truths, for in former times the Ancient Church had existed there also. But once the Church there had been turned into magic, facts which pervert spiritual things were meant after that by 'Egypt'. This explains why facts are meant in the Word, both in the good sense and in the contrary sense, by 'Egypt', see 1164, 1165, 1462; in this case in the good sense.

[2] The factual knowledge on which the interior truths meant by the spices, resin, and stacte which the Ishmaelites were carrying on their camels are based are not the kind of facts which the Church possesses but the kind found among gentiles. The truths obtained from these facts found among gentiles cannot receive correction and be made sound except by means of the facts which the genuine Church possesses, and so by instruction in those facts. These are the matters meant at this point.