6224. 'And said, Behold, your son Joseph has come to you' means the presence of the internal. This is clear from the representation of 'Joseph' as the internal, 6177; and from the meaning of 'coming to someone' as presence, dealt with in 5934, 5941, 5947, 6063, 6089. 'Joseph' is the internal and in some other places the internal celestial, which one depending on the things with which it is connected in the natural below. The term 'the internal' is used when the connection is with the lower parts of the natural, which are represented by 'Jacob', and similarly when the connection is with Pharaoh. But the terms 'the internal celestial' and 'internal good' are used when the connection is with the interior parts of the natural, which are represented by 'Israel' and also by 'his ten sons' each connection existing because one flows into the other.

6136. 'Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our ground?' means that if they have been made desolate, there is no longer any spiritual life beneath the internal. This is clear from the meaning of 'before your eyes' as beneath the internal, for 'Joseph', to whom these words are addressed, represents the internal; and from the meaning of 'both we and our ground' as the receptacles of goodness and truth, as immediately above in 6135, and so the receptacles of spiritual life. Those receptacles are said 'to die' when they do not have any spiritual life at all within them; for 'to die' means desolation, that is, the deprivation of goodness and truth, the components of spiritual life.