3558. 'Isaac said to Jacob' means perception concerning this natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' as perceiving, dealt with already, and from the representation of 'Jacob' as the truth of the natural, though at this point simply the natural. He represents simply the natural because he also apparently represented what Esau represented. That is, he adopted an outward appearance like Esau's - thereby representing the good of the natural, which is 'Esau' - and also produced venison like Esau's, which is the truth that is acquired by this good, 3501. The reason why the phrase 'he said' is used so many times is that something new, or a new perception, begins, see 2061, 2238, 2260.