THE EXPLANATION of Isaiah Chapter 25

(Note: Rev. Smithson's translation of the Isaiah text is appended below the explanation)

1. O JEHOVAH, You art my God; I will exalt You, I will praise Your name; for You have done wonderful [things]; Your counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.

2. For You have made of a city a heap; of a fortified city a ruin: a palace of strangers be no city; it shall never be built.

VERSES 1-12. The glorification of God Messiah, or the Lord, and the thanksgiving of those who are in heaven, on account of deliverance from their enemies, is here described. The "enemies" are also described, namely, those to whom a revelation has been made, and who, from self-love, are therefore proud. This glorification is referred to the elders or ancients in Jerusalem, concerning whom we read at the end of the former chapter, - they shall now see "wonderful things and counsels from antiquity", that is, truths and goods, which are signified by "Truth and Fidelity."

Verse 2. The "devastated city" is in allusion to the judgment in the former chapter; "strangers are the impious; their "palace" is pride and the love of self; this "palace" will be utterly cast down.

Verse 3. The "strong or brave people are those who have acquired faith, hence their strength and bravery; the "formidable nations" are also those who have faith, for they are formidable to their enemies.

Verse 4. A faith in the Lord involves what is here said, namely that they know and believe that their "defence or fortress is the Lord", for He is a defence to those who are "poor and needy", that is, who believe that they have, by no means, any strength from themselves. The more a man believes that he has no strength in himself, and that all power belongs to the Lord, he is the more strong and formidable [to his spiritual enemies]. Hence it follows that the Lord is "a refuge from the inundation, a shadow from the heat", etc., for so long as a man lives, he is liable to perpetual assaults from evil spirits; a "wall" is mentioned, because they desire to take possession of his intellectual mind, wherefore their assaults are compared to a "blast against a wall."

Verse 5. "From their heat, or their love, in a dry place, arises a tumult or noise [or opposition against divine Truth]; the Lord represses that heat by "the shadow of a cloud", which is called "the branch of the violent ones", namely, by their darkness, for it is their darkness which is called "branch."

Verse 6. The "feasts" thus described signify spiritual and celestial joys; the "eatables" from which everything impure is removed, are those joys in spiritual things when they are imbued with the Lord's justice or righteousness, hence His holiness. The impure or feculent things do not then appear, because they are not excited; they still, however, remain at the roots, but they are changed into that form in which they can be imbued with the Lord's holiness, for they are no longer excited by the diabolical crew, which is, then expelled.

Verse 7 describes the intellectual light which will then arise, or the understanding of Truth; for then will be seen "the counsels from afar", namely, Truth and Goodness. The shade which is described is compared to a "veil", and to the "face of a covering"; these things are said of the understanding but the "feasts" of love. This is to take place on Mount Zion for all peoples, that is, for those who are in the faith; for these are called "the people of Mount Zion."

Verse 8. "He shall swallow up death for ever", etc. - "Death" is damnation, which Adonai Jehovih, that is, !he Lord, will destroy when all "tears", that is, grief and pain, "will be wiped away", and likewise all", reproach or ignominy, because during their lifetime they had been affected with ignominy.

Verse 9. Faith is here described by a confession of faith in God Messiah, or the Lord; to "rejoice in His salvation", is to rejoice in Himself, for He is Salvation.

Verse 10. By "Moab" the impious are understood. By " Moab", who was born of Lot and of his elder daughter, are understood those who mix holy things with profane thus those to whom a revelation has been made, and who then can adulterate holy things, which is signified by the adultery of Lot with his own daughter. This is also the case with those who confide in their own powers, and not in the Lord, as in the following verse.

Verse 11. Because a revelation has been given to them, they are proud and trust in themselves; wherefore they are compared to those who "swim" and who continually desire to cast themselves on high, and who wish to betake themselves to the other bank, but by "the devices or obstacles [obices] of their hands, which are their own powers in which they trust, their pride is subdued.

Verse 12. "The fortress of the high fort", etc. - Their pride is here treated of and its imaginary defences, which are dejected and laid prostrate in the dust; for such is the representation of the depression of the proud. (Swedenborg's Notes on Isaiah, p. 64.)

Verses 1-3. Your counsels of old are faithfulness and truth, etc.

- The devastation of the former church and the establishment of a new one are here treated of. The devastation of the church as to doctrine is understood by "making of a city a heap, a fortified city a ruin, a palace of strangers to be no city; and the establishment of a New Church as to doctrine, is understood by the words which follow, "Therefore shall the powerful people honour You; the city of the strong nations shall fear You." Apocalypse Explained 223.

Verse 2. Strangers. - See Chap, Isaiah 1:7, the Exposition.

3. Therefore shall the powerful people honour You; the city of the formidable nations shall fear You:

Verse 3.The powerful people shall honour You, the city of the formidable nations shall fear You. Here worship from Good is signified by "honouring", for "honouring" is predicated of the good of love; and worship from Truths is signified by "fearing You", as was said above; powerful people signify the men of the church who are in truths from Good, for from them comes all power; "the city of the formidable nations" signifies those who are in the truths of doctrine, and thereby in the good of love; and inasmuch as all spiritual power is thence derived, therefore they are called "the formidable nations."

From these words also it manifestly appears that there is a marriage of Good and Truth in every part of the Word; for to "honour" is predicated of Good to "fear" of Truth; both of them in worship. "People" also is predicated of those who are in Truths, and thereby in good; and "nations", those who are in Good, and thence in truths; and whereas all power in the spiritual world is from the conjunction of Good and Truth, therefore people are called "powerful", and nations are called "formidable." Apocalypse Explained 696. See also Arcana Coelestia 2826.

Verses 3, 7, 8. The powerful people shall honour You, etc.

- A distinction is here made between people and nations, because "people" signify those who are of the spiritual kingdom of the Lord, and "nations" those of His celestial kingdom, thus those who are in spiritual good, and those who are in celestial good; spiritual good is the Good of charity towards our neighbour, and the good of faith thence derived; and celestial good is the Good of love to the Lord, and the good of mutual love thence derived. The truth of this latter good is what is understood by "the city of formidable nations", for "city" signifies the doctrine of Truth, or truths of doctrine.

By "swallowing up the covering which is upon all peoples, and the veil that is spread over all nations", is signified to dissipate the shade which covers the understanding, and prevents it seeing the truths and perceiving the goods which appertain to heaven and the church. Apocalypse Explained 331.

4. For You have been a fortress to the poor, a fortress to the needy in his distress: a refuge from; the inundation, a shadow from the heat; when the blast of the violent ones was like an inundation [against] a wall.

5. As the heat in a dry place, the tumult of strangers shalt You subdue; as the heat by, the shadow of a cloud, the branch of the violent ones shall He bring low.

Verses 4, 5. By the "poor" and "needy" are signified those who are in a defect of Good from ignorance of Truth, and yet are in the desire of Good and Truth. It is called. "inundation and heat ", when evils and falsities rise up and flow in from the proprium, and also from others who are in evil; the "spirit [or blast] of the violent" signifies their opposition to the goods and truths of the church; they are called "violent" "who endeavour to destroy goods and truths, and their "spirit" signifies their lust of destroying. "The tumult of strangers shall You bring low", signifies that the Lord will allay and take away the irruption of falsities from evil; "tumult" signifying irruptions, "strangers" falsities from evil, and to "humble and bring low" signifies to allay and take away. To "repress the heat by the shadow of a cloud", signifies to defend from the concupiscence of the false; "heat" denoting the concupiscence of the false, and the "shadow of a cloud" defence from it; for the shadow of a cloud tempers the heat of the, sun, and assuages its burning. Apocalypse Explained 481.

Verse 4. A refuge, etc. - See the Exposition of Isaiah Chapter 4:6.

6. And Jehovah of Hosts shall make, for all; peoples on this mountain a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees of fat things full of' marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.

Verse 6. These things are said concerning the state of those who should acknowledge and adore the Lord. By "this mountain" is signified the New Church from the them; by the "feast of fat things, of fat things full things full of marrow", is signified good both natural and' spiritual, with joy of heart and by "wine", and "wine on the lees well refined", are signified truths from that good, with the felicity thence derived. Apocalypse Explained 1159.

The words also treat of the Lord's advent. By "the feast of fat things" is signified the appropriation and communication of goods; and by "the feast of wines on the lees well refined", or of the best wine, is signified the appropriation of truths. That" fat things" signified the goods of love, may be seen in Arcana Coelestia 353, 5943, 10053; and also the delights of love, 6409; and that "wine" signifies the good of charity, which in its essence is Truth 1071, 1798, 6377.

Similar things are signified by the "marriage [feast]", to which the ten virgins were invited. (Matthew 25:1-12)

This "feast of fat things", etc. was spoken of the sacrament of the Holy Supper, "which was to be instituted by the Lord. True Christian Religion 708.

The "feasts" which were anciently made among those who were in significatives and representatives, signified no other than initiation into mutual love and charity. The "nuptial feasts", too, signified initiation into conjugial love; and the "holy feasts" into spiritual and celestial love; and this by reason that "feasting", or eating and drinking, signified appropriation and conjunction. Arcana Coelestia 3832.

"Feasts of Charity" were instituted among the primitive Christians that they might meet together in cordial joy and friendly union. The spiritual sphere which prevailed on those occasions was the sphere of love to the Lord and towards the neighbour, which exhilarated every mind, softened, the tone of every expression and communicated to all the senses a festivity from the heart; for from every man there emanates a spiritual sphere, derived from the affection of his love and corresponding thought, which inwardly affects those in his company, particularly at the time of convivial recreations. This sphere emanates both by the face and the respiration.

It is because "dinners" and "suppers", or "feasts", were significative of such consociation of mind that they are so often mentioned in the Word. True Christian Religion 433, 459, 727.

7. And in this mountain He will swallow up the face of the covering cast over all peoples, and the veil that is spread over all nations.

Verse 7. He will swallow up the face of the covering, etc. - [By these words is meant that the Lord will, when this spiritual " feast" comes to be enjoyed, remove all obscurity respecting the true meaning of His Word, and will open the understandings of His people to perceive its internal Truths and the genuine doctrines of His church.]

8. He shall swallow up death for ever; and the Lord Jehovih shall wipe away the tear from off all faces; and the reproach of His people shall He remove from off the whole earth: for Jehovah has spoken it.

Verse. 8. By which is signified that the Lord, by His coming, shall remove evils and falsities with those who live from Him, so that there shall be no grief of mind on account of them, or from them, "Death" signifies evil, because this is the case of spiritual death; and "tear" is predicated of the false. It is to be observed that "the shedding of tears" and "weeping" signify grief on account of falsities and from falsities, but "shedding of tears" grief of mind, and "weeping" grief of heart, on account of falsities; grief of mind is grief of the thought and understanding, which are of truth, and grief of heart is grief of the affection or will, which are of good; and as everywhere in the Word there is the marriage of Truth and Good, therefore both "weeping" and "tears" are mentioned in the Word when grief is expressed on account of the falsities of doctrine or of religion. That "weeping" is grief of heart, may appear from this consideration, that it bursts forth from the heart and breaks out into lamentation through the mouth; and that "shedding of tears" is grief of mind, may appear from this consideration, that it issues forth from the thought through the eyes. In the act both of weeping, and shedding of tears comes forth water, but bitter and astringent, and this is occasioned by the influx from the spiritual world into the grief of man, where "bitter water" corresponds to the defect of truth by reason of falsities, and to grief on account thereof; wherefore grief on account of falsities has place with those who are in truths. From these considerations it may appear whence it is that in the Word, where "tears" are mentioned, "weeping" is mentioned also, namely, that it is on account of the marriage of Good and Truth in every part of the Word. The following passages may serve for confirmation, thus in Isaiah:

"I will weep, as with the weeping of Jazer, for the vine of Sibmah: I will water you with my tears, O Heshbon and Elealeh!" (Isaiah 16:9)

In Jeremiah:

"My soul shall weep in secret places, and mine eyes shall run down with tears:" (Jeremiah 13:17) Apocalypse Explained 484.

The Lord Jehovih shall wipe away the tear from all faces, etc. These words signify that they will no longer be in combats against evils and their false principles, and thus not in pain or grief, but in goods and truths, and hence in heavenly joys from the Lord. The same thing is also signified in the Apocalypse by "the Lamb wiping away all tears from their eyes." Apocalypse Revealed 385.

As to the specific meaning of "Jehovih", see Chapter 3:15, the Exposition.

9. In that day shall, they say, Behold, this is our God! we have waited for Him, and, He will save us: this is Jehovah; we have waited for Him; we will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.

Verse 9. From this and many other passages it is evident that it was JEHOVAH HIMSELF who should come into the world to redeem and save mankind, and not, as is commonly supposed, "a Son from eternity." (See Isaiah 43:11, 12; 45:14, 15, 21; Hosea 13:4)

Brief Exposition 120. See also Conjugial Love 81; True Christian Religion 82, 188, 294.

10. For the hand of Jehovah shall rest upon this mountain; and Moab shall be trodden under Him, as the, straw is trodden on the dunghill.

Verse 10. The hand of Jehovah shall rest upon this mountain; and Moab shall be threshed [or trodden down], etc.

- That "Moab" signifies those in the church who are in external good without an internal principle, and whose good is consequently defiled with falsities, is signified by being "threshed or trodden down as straw for the dunghill", see above, Chapter 15:1, the Exposition.

11. And he shall spread forth his hands in the midst! thereof, as he that swims spreads forth to swim: but He shall bring down his pride together with the devices of his hands.

Verse 11. And he [Moab] shall spread forth his hands, etc. - That the "hand" signifies power and authority, and hence confidence, is evident from many passages in the Word, as in Isaiah:

"Moab spreads forth his hands", etc.; where "hand" stands for self-power [or power from the proprium], from the love of being pre-eminent over others, thus from pride.

Again,

"Their inhabitants were short of hand"; (Isaiah 37:27) "short of hand" means of no power, Hence it appears what was the nature of representatives which were the externals of the Jewish church; hence it appears too what the nature of the Word is, as containing things which, in their external sense, do not seem to be representative of the Lord and of His kingdom, like what is said here concerning "stretching out the hand", and all other things of a similar kind, whose true meaning cannot be comprehended whilst the mind dwells only in the historical relations of the letter. It appears likewise from hence how far the Jews departed from the true understanding of the Word and of the rites of the church, whilst they placed all worship in externals; even to the attributing of ability to the "rod of Moses" and to the "spear of Joshua", when yet there was in them no more ability than in any other piece of wood: but whereas they signified the Lord's Omnipotence, and as this was understood in heaven when, by command, they "stretched out the hand" or the "rod", therefore signs and miracles were done by them. The like is true concerning what is written of Moses when he was on the top of the hill, and when he lifted up his hands, Joshua prevailed; but when he let them down, the enemy prevailed: and therefore they supported his hands. (Exodus 17:9-13)

The like is true concerning the "laying on of hands", when anyone was to be consecrated, as when the people were to "lay their hands on the Levites," (Numbers 8:9, 10, 12) and when Moses "laid his hands on Joshua", in appointing him to be his successor, (Numbers 27:18, 23), that thus ability might be conferred; hence the ceremony at this day of inauguration and benediction by the "laying on of hands."

How far the "hand" signified and represented ability, may appear from what is written in the Word concerning Uzzah and Jeroboam; concerning Uzzah, that he "put forth [his hand] to the ark of God, and took hold of it; on which account he died. (2 Samuel 6:6, 7)

The "ark" represented the Lord, consequently all that is holy and celestial; Uzzah's "putting forth to the ark" represented self-ability, or man's proprium, which being profane, the word "hand" is not mentioned, but still it is understood; the reason thereof is, lest it should be perceived by the angels that what was so profane had touched what was holy.

Concerning Jeroboam it is thus written:

"It came to pass, when he heard the word of the man of God, which cried against the altar, that Jeroboam put forth his hand from off the altar, saying, Lay hold of him. And his hand; which he put forth against him, dried up, so that he could not pull it in again to him, And he said to the man of God, Entreat I pray you, the, faces of Jehovah your God, that my hand may be restored me again. And the man of God entreated the faces of Jehovah God; and his hand was restored to him, and became as before. (1 Kings 13:4, 6)

Here, in like manner, by "putting forth the hand is signified self-ability, or proprium, which is profane in that it was desirous to violate what was holy by "putting forth the hand against the man of God", wherefore "the hand was dried up"; but inasmuch, as he was an idolator and incapable of profanation as was before said, "his hand was restored to him." That the "hand " signifies and represents ability, may appear from representatives in the world of spirits, where a kind of bare arm sometimes is presented to view, which has such strength in it, that it appears able to break bones to pieces, and bruise, as it were, to nothing the inmost marrow contained therein; and hence so great terror is excited, that all who see it are ready to melt at heart; nay, such strength is actually in it. Arcana Coelestia 878.

12. And the fortress of the high fort of your walls shall He bring down, lay low, bring to the ground, [even] to the dust.

Verse 12. The fortress of the high fort, etc. - [These words imply that all the false principles of doctrine and of evil confirmed by Moab will, at the time of judgment, be destroyed, howsoever he may "spread forth his hands", or put forth all his powers to save himself from destruction, that is, from being drowned in the falsities of his own persuasion.]

As to the signification of "fortress", "walls", "bulwarks", etc., see Chapter 26:1, the Exposition; but, in this passage, these terms are used in a bad sense.

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Isaiah Chapter 25

1. O JEHOVAH, You art my God; I will exalt You, I will praise Your name; for You have done wonderful [things]; Your counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.

2. For You have made of a city a heap; of a fortified city a ruin: a palace of strangers be no city; it shall never be built.

3. Therefore shall the powerful people honour You; the city of the formidable nations shall fear You:

4. For You have been a fortress to the poor, a fortress to the needy in his distress: a refuge from; the inundation, a shadow from the heat; when the blast of the violent ones was like an inundation [against] a wall.

5. As the heat in a dry place, the tumult of strangers shalt You subdue; as the heat by, the shadow of a cloud, the branch of the violent ones shall He bring low.

6. And Jehovah of Hosts shall make, for all; peoples on this mountain a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees of fat things full of' marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.

7. And in this mountain He will swallow up the face of the covering cast over all peoples, and the veil that is spread over all nations.

8. He shall swallow up death for ever; and the Lord Jehovih shall wipe away the tear from off all faces; and the reproach of His people shall He remove from off the whole earth: for Jehovah has spoken it.

9. In that day shall, they say, Behold, this is our God! we have waited for Him, and, He will save us: this is Jehovah; we have waited for Him; we will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.

10. For the hand of Jehovah shall rest upon this mountain; and Moab shall be trodden under Him, as the, straw is trodden on the dunghill.

11. And he shall spread forth his hands in the midst! thereof, as he that swimms spreads forth to swim: but He shall bring down his pride together with the devices of his hands.

12. And the fortress of the high fort of your walls shall He bring down, lay low, bring to the ground, [even] to the dust.

188. The fourth experience ¹ .

Since I have been allowed by the Lord to see the wonders in the heavens and in the regions below the heavens, my instructions impose on me the duty of relating what I have seen.

I saw a magnificent palace, and at its heart a church. In the middle of this was a table made of gold, on which was the Word, with two angels standing by it. Seats were arranged around it in three rows. The seats of the first row were covered in silk cloth of purple colour, those of the second row in silk cloth of blue colour, those of the third row in white cloth. Beneath the roof, high above the table, was to be seen a curtain drawn across, glittering with precious stones, from which shone a radiance resembling the rainbow to be seen when the sky clears after rain. Then suddenly there appeared clergy to the same number as the seats, all dressed in their priestly vestments. At one side was a strong-box guarded by an angel, in which lay splendid vestments arranged in beautiful order.

[2] It was a council summoned by the Lord; and I heard a voice from heaven saying: 'Debate.' 'But on what subject?' they said. They were told to debate about the Lord the Saviour and the Holy Spirit. When they began to think about these subjects, they had no enlightenment; so they prayed for it, and then light poured down from heaven, which first of all lit up the backs of their heads, then their temples, and finally their faces. Then they began, speaking first as instructed about the Lord the Saviour.

The first question proposed for discussion was: who was it that took upon himself human form in the Virgin Mary? The angel who stood by the table holding the Word read to them this passage from Luke:

The angel said to Mary, Behold, you will conceive in your womb, and will give birth to a son; and you are to call his name Jesus. He will be mighty, and will be called the Son of the Most High. And Mary said to the angel, How will this be, seeing I have no knowledge of a man? And the angel answered and said, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; hence what is born of you will be holy, and will be called the Son of god, Luke 1:31-32, 34-35.

He also read this passage in Matthew:

The angel said to Joseph in a dream, Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your betrothed, for what is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And Joseph did not know her, until she had given birth to her first-born son; and he called his name Jesus, Matthew 1:20, 25.

In addition he read many passages from the Gospels (such as Matthew 3:17; 17:5; John 1:18; 3:16; 20:31), and many other passages where the Lord in His Human is called the Son of God, and where He from His Human calls Jehovah His Father, for instance, the passages in the Prophets which predict the coming of Jehovah Himself into the world. Among these were the following two from Isaiah:

On that day it will be said, Behold, He is our God, whom we have awaited to free us. He is Jehovah, whom we have awaited, let us exult and rejoice in His salvation, Isaiah 25:9.

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare the way of Jehovah, make smooth in the desert a path for our God. For the glory of Jehovah will be revealed, and all flesh will see it together. Behold, the Lord Jehovih comes in might, like a shepherd will He feed His flock, Isaiah 40:3, 5, 10-11.

[3] The angel said: 'Since Jehovah Himself came into the world and took upon Himself human form, [and by this means saved and redeemed man] ² therefore in the Prophets He is called the Saviour and the Redeemer.' Then he read to them the following passages:

Only among you is God, and there is no God besides. You surely are the hidden God, the God of Israel, the Saviour, Isaiah 45:14-15.

Am I not Jehovah, and there is no God besides me, there is no righteous God and Saviour beside me, Isaiah 45:21-22.

I am Jehovah, and there is no Saviour beside me, Isaiah 43:11.

I am Jehovah your God; and you are not to acknowledge any God beside me, and there is no Saviour beside me, Hosea 13:4.

That all flesh may know that I am Jehovah your Saviour and your Redeemer, Isaiah 49:26; 60:16.

As for our Redeemer, Jehovah Zebaoth is His name, Isaiah 47:4.

Their Redeemer, the mighty Jehovah Zebaoth is His name, Jeremiah 50:34.

Jehovah, my rock and my Redeemer, Psalms 19:14.

Thus spoke Jehovah your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel, I am Jehovah your God, Isaiah 48:17; 43:3 ³ ; Isaiah 49:7; 54:8.

You are Jehovah our Father, our Redeemer from eternity is your name, Isaiah 63:16.

Thus spoke Jehovah your Redeemer, I am Jehovah the maker of everything, and I alone by myself, Isaiah 44:24.

Thus spoke Jehovah, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Jehovah Zebaoth; I am the first and the last and there is no God beside me, Isaiah 44:6.

Jehovah Zebaoth is His name, and your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel; He will be called God of all the earth, Isaiah 54:5.

Behold, the days will come, when I shall raise up for David a righteous shoot, who will reign as King; and this is His name, Jehovah our righteousness, Jeremiah 23:5-6; 33:15-16, On that day Jehovah will be King over all the earth; on that day Jehovah will be one, and His name one, Zechariah 14:9.

[4] Both sets of passages were accepted as proofs by those who sat on the seats, and they said with one accord that Jehovah Himself took upon Himself human form to redeem and save mankind. But then a voice spoke up from the Roman Catholics, who had hidden behind the altar, saying: 'How can Jehovah God become man? Is He not the Creator of the universe?' One of those sitting in the second row of seats turned round and said: 'Who did then?' The one who had been behind the altar stood up near it and replied: 'The Son from eternity.' But he received the reply: 'Is not the Son from eternity according to your creed also the Creator of the universe? And what is the Son but God born from eternity? How can the Divine essence, which is one and indivisible, be separated so that one part of it came down, and not the whole at once?'

[5] The second debate about the Lord was whether the Father and He are one, just as the soul and the body are one. They said that this followed because the soul is from the father. Then one of those sitting in the third row read the following words from the Creed known as Athanasian:

Although our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man, still there are not two, but one Christ; indeed He is utterly one. He is one person. For as the soul and body make up one man, so God and man is one Christ.

The reader said that the Creed containing these words is accepted throughout the Christian world, including the Roman Catholics.

'What need,' they said, 'is there to go on? God the Father and the Lord are one, just as soul and body are one. Since this is so, we see that the Lord's Human is Divine, because it is the Human of Jehovah; and the Lord is to be approached in His Divine Human, because this is the only possible way to approach the Divine called the Father.'

[6] This conclusion of theirs was confirmed by the angel citing many passages from the Word, including:

A child is born for us, a son is given to us, whose name is Wonderful, Counsellor, God, Hero, the everlasting Father, the Prince of peace, Isaiah 9:6.

Also:

Abraham does not know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us. You, Jehovah, are our Father, our Redeemer from eternity is your name, Isaiah 63:16.

In John:

Jesus said, He who believes in me believes in Him who sent me, and he who sees me sees Him who sent me, John 12:44-45.

Philip said to Jesus, Show us the Father. Jesus said to him, He who has seen me has seen the Father. Why then do you say, Show us the Father? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? Believe me, I am in the Father and the Father is in me, John 14:8-11. Jesus said, I and the Father are one, John 10:30.

Also:

All things which the Father has are mine, and all of mine are the Father's, John 16:15; 17:10.

Finally:

Jesus said, I am the way, truth and life; no one comes to the Father except through me, John 14:6.

The reader went on to say that similar statements to those made here by the Lord about Himself and His Father can also be made by a man about himself and his soul. On hearing this all declared with one heart and voice that the Lord's Human is Divine, and this must be approached in order to approach the Father, because by means of the Human Jehovah God brought Himself into the world and made Himself visible to human eyes, and thus accessible. Likewise He made Himself visible and accessible to the ancients in human form, but at that time by means of an angel. But because this form represented the Lord who was to come, among the ancients everything that concerned the church was representative.

[7] This was followed by a debate about the Holy Spirit. To begin it the popular idea about God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit was presented, namely, that God the Father sits on high, the Son at His right hand, and they send out from themselves the Holy Spirit, to enlighten, teach, justify and sanctify men. But a voice was then heard from heaven, saying. 'We find this mode of thought intolerable. Surely everyone knows that Jehovah God is omnipresent. A person who knows and acknowledges this will also acknowledge that it is He who enlightens, teaches, justifies and sanctifies, and that there is no mediating God separate from Himself, much less from two other Gods, as one person is separate from another. You must therefore rid yourselves of the first idea, seeing it is meaningless, and accept this, which is correct, and then you will see this plainly.'

[8] But at this point a voice was heard from the Roman Catholics who were standing near the altar of the church, saying: 'What then is the Holy Spirit who is mentioned in the Word, in the Gospels and Paul, and by which so many of the learned clergy, especially ours, allege they are guided? Is there any Christian to-day who denies the existence of the Holy Spirit and His activity?' On hearing this one of those sitting in the second row turned round and said: 'You claim that the Holy Spirit is a person by Himself and God by Himself. But what is the meaning of a person going forth and proceeding from a person, if it is not the activity which goes forth and proceeds? One person cannot go forth and proceed from another, but his activity can. What is meant by God going forth and proceeding from God, if not the Divine which goes forth and proceeds? One God cannot go forth and proceed from another by means of a third; but the Divine can from a single God.'

[9] On hearing this the assembly in session reached the unanimous conclusion that the Holy Spirit is not a person by Himself, so not God by Himself either, but the Holy Divine which goes forth and proceeds from the one omnipresent God, who is the Lord. The angels who were standing by the golden table on which the Word was placed said to this: 'Good. Nowhere in the Old Testament do we read that the prophets spoke the Word from the Holy Spirit, but from Jehovah; and where the Holy Spirit is mentioned in the New Testament, the Divine which proceeds is meant. This is the Divine which enlightens, teaches, quickens, reforms and regenerates.'

[10] This was followed by another debate about the Holy Spirit: from whom does the Divine meant by the Holy Spirit proceed, from the Father, or from the Lord? While they were discussing this, a light shone on them from heaven which allowed them to see that the Holy Divine, meant by the Holy Spirit, does not proceed from the Father by means of the Lord, but from the Lord acted upon by the Father; as for comparison in man, his activity does not proceed from the soul by means of the body, but from the body acted upon by the soul.

This was confirmed by the angel standing at the table by these passages in the Word:

He whom the Father has sent speaks the words of God; not by measure does God give him the Spirit. The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand, John 3:34-35.

A shoot will come forth from the stock of Jesse; the Spirit of Jehovah will rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and intelligence, the spirit of counsel and power, Isaiah 11:1-2.

The Spirit of Jehovah was put upon him, and was in him, Isaiah 42:1; 59:19-20; 61:1; Luke 4:18.

When the Holy Spirit comes, whom I shall send you from the Father, John 15:26.

He will glorify me, because He will take from what is mine and communicate it to you. All things that the Father has are mine. That is why I have said that He will take from what is mine and communicate it to you, John 16:14-15.

If I go away, I will send the Comforter to you, John 16:7.

The Comforter is the Holy Spirit, John 14:26.

The Holy Spirit was not yet, because Jesus was not yet glorified, John 7:39.

But after His glorification:

Jesus breathed upon the disciples and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit, John 20:22.

And in Revelation:

Who will not glorify your name, Lord, since you alone are holy? Revelation 15:4.

[11] Since the Holy Spirit means the Lord's Divine activity from His Divine omnipresence, so when He spoke to the disciples about the Holy Spirit, which He was to send from the Father, He also said:

I will not leave you bereft; I go away and come to you; and on that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I in you, John 14:18, 20, 28.

Shortly before He left the world, He said:

Behold, I am with you always up to the ending of the age, Matthew 28:20.

After reading these passages to them the angel said: 'It is plain from these and many other passages in the Word that the Divine called the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Lord acted upon by the Father.' Those in session replied: 'This is Divine truth.'

[12] Finally the following resolution was passed: 'We have seen clearly from the deliberations in this council, and thus acknowledge as a holy truth, that in the Lord God the Saviour Jesus Christ there is a Divine Trinity, consisting of the originating Divine called the Father, the Human Divine called the Son, and the Divine which proceeds called the Holy Spirit.' And they cried out together that in Christ all the fulness of the Godhead dwells bodily (Colossians 2:9). 'Thus there is one God in the church.'

[13] When this magnificent council had reached these conclusions, its members rose; and the angel in charge came and brought from the strong-box for each of those who had taken part in the session splendid garments with here and there gold threads interwoven, and said: 'Accept these wedding garments.' Then they were taken in glory to the new Christian heaven, with which the Lord's church on earth, the New Jerusalem, is to be linked.

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