8799. 'For he will surely be stoned' means that [as a result] the truths of faith which they possess will be destroyed. This is clear from the meaning of 'being stoned' as the punishment for falsity and for the violation of truth, dealt with in 5156, 7456, 8575. The reason why that is the punishment suffered by those who in arrogant self-confidence ascend to the Divine in a heaven above is that when they do this all the intelligence they possessed previously is destroyed; for they are seized then by blindness, see just above in 8797.

5327. 'And without you shall no man lift up his hand' means that all power in the spiritual was received from the celestial of the spiritual. This is clear from the meaning of 'hand' as power, dealt with in 878, 3387, 4931-4937, 5296. Consequently 'no man lifting up his hand without you' means that they had no power at all except from this, thus that all power rested with this, that is to say, with the celestial of the spiritual. As regards power in the spiritual being meant by 'hand', this will be seen in the next paragraph.