6447. 'And this is what their father spoke to them' means communication effected through an influx from spiritual good. This is clear from the meaning of 'speaking as flowing in, dealt with in 2951, 5481, 5743, 5797, at this point communication effected through an influx; and from the representation of Israel, to whom 'their father' refers here, as spiritual good, dealt with in 4598, 5801, 5803, 5806, 5812, 5817, 5819, 5826, 5833.

5817. 'And so it was, when we went up to your servant my father' means a raising up to spiritual good. This is clear from the meaning of 'going up' as a raising up, dealt with below; and from the representation of Israel, to whom 'father' refers here, as spiritual good from the natural, dealt with in 4286, 4598. A raising up of the kind meant here by 'going up is a movement towards more internal things; here it is a raising up from the truths in the natural, which are represented by 'Jacob's ten sons', to spiritual good from the natural, represented by 'Israel'. For there is an exterior natural and there is an interior natural, 5497, 5649. The interior natural holds spiritual good, which is 'Israel', while the exterior natural holds the truths known to the Church, which are 'Jacob's sons', and therefore 'going up to their father' means a raising up of these to spiritual good.