5142. 'And he said to Joseph' means the perception of the celestial within the natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying', in the historical narratives of the Word, as perception, often dealt with already; and from the representation of 'Joseph' as the celestial within the natural, dealt with in 5086, 5087, 5106.

5087. 'And the chief of the attendants set Joseph over them' means that under the influence of the things first and foremost in explanations the celestial of the natural taught those bodily senses. This is clear from the meaning of 'the chief of the attendants' as the things that are first and foremost in explanations, dealt with in 4790, 4966, 5084; from the representation of 'Joseph' as the celestial of the natural, dealt with immediately above in 5086; and from the meaning of 'being set over here as teaching, for one who is 'set over' things that are cast aside so that they may be examined and corrected performs the function of a teacher.