4578. 'And God went up from over him in the place where He talked to him' means the Divine within that state. This is clear from the meaning of 'God going up from over him' as the Divine, for 'going up' implies a raising up to more interior aspects, and when used in connection with the Lord, to whom 'God' refers here, a raising up to the Divine, 4539; and from the meaning of 'the place where He talked to him' as that state. 'Place' means state, see 2625, 2837, 3356, 3387, 4321, and therefore 'the place where He talked to him' means the state that He was passing through.

2837. 'Jehovah will see' means the Lord's Providence. This is clear from the meaning of 'seeing', when it has reference to Jehovah or the Lord, as foreseeing and providing, dealt with in 2807 - for Jehovah is the Lord, see 1343, 1736, 2156, 2329. In the literal sense this phrase is a place-name, but in the internal sense it is the character of the state under description that is meant. For periods of time and measurements of space belong solely to the natural order, and therefore when the sense of the letter of the Word passes over from the natural order into heaven the natural idea of those things perishes completely and becomes the spiritual idea which corresponds to them.