5782. 'And Judah said' means a perception imparted to the good of the Church in the natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical narratives of the Word as perception, dealt with often (it is an imparted perception because all perception comes from the internal, that is, it flows in from the Lord by way of the internal, 5779); and from the representation of 'Judah' as the good of the Church, dealt with in 5583, 5603, 5775. Regarding Judah's representation, it should be recognized that in the highest sense he represents the Lord as regards His Divine Love, and in the internal sense His celestial kingdom, see 3654, 3881, and so the celestial kind of love there. Here therefore the good of love present with the Church in the natural is meant because now it exists among those who represent things in the natural which are to be joined to the internal.

2037. That 'this is My covenant which you shall keep between Me and you' means a token of the conjunction of all with the Lord is clear from the meaning of 'a covenant' as conjunction, dealt with already. That a token of conjunction is meant here is clear from the next verse where it is called 'a sign of the covenant' in the statement, 'You shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and it will be a sign of the covenant between Me and you'. All the external religious ceremonies of the Church were signs of the covenant, ceremonies which were to be held sacred since they were signs meaning things of an internal nature. The circumcision referred to here was nothing else than a religious ceremony that was representative and carried a spiritual meaning, as will be explained in the paragraphs following this. All the same, such religious ceremonies in the Word are frequently called a covenant for the reason that external things represented and thereby meant internal things. The internal things are what make it a covenant because it is these that are conjunctive, not external things except through internal. External things were simply the signs of the covenant, or tokens of conjunction, by which the internal things might be called to mind and so by which conjunction might take place. Concerning signs of the covenant, see 1038. All the internal aspects of the covenant, that is, those which bring about conjunction, have reference to love and charity and stem from love and charity, for on these two, that is to say, on loving the Lord more than oneself and the neighbour as oneself, depend all the Law and all the Prophets, that is, the doctrine of faith in its entirety, Matthew 22:35-40; Mark 12:28-35.