3274. And these are the years of the life of Ishmael. That this signifies a state representative by Ishmael of the Lord’s spiritual kingdom, is evident from the signification of “years” and of “lives,” as here being representative states (n. 3251); and from the representation of Ishmael, as being the Lord’s spiritual kingdom (n. 2699, 3263, 3268).

1145. These are the nativities of the sons of Noah. That these signify derivations of the doctrinals and worships of the Ancient Church, which in general is “Noah,” is evident from the signification of “nativities” (of which above [89, 469-474, 610]). In the external or literal sense, “nativities” or “births,” as is known, are generations of one from another; but in the internal sense all things have regard to what is celestial and spiritual, that is, to the things of charity and of faith. Thus here the “nativities” are those of the church, consequently are doctrinal matters, as will be made more clear in what follows.