7663. 'With our flocks and with our herds we shall go' means those governed by good, interior and exterior. This is clear from the meaning of 'flocks' as interior good, and of 'herds' as exterior good, dealt with in 5913, 6048. The words in this verse, saying that they would go with their children and old people, sons and daughters, and flocks and herds, are used to mean in the internal sense everything that belongs to the Church, both the external Church and the internal. What belongs to the external Church is meant by 'children', 'sons', and 'herds', and what belongs to the internal Church by 'old people', 'daughters', and 'flocks'; for 'old people' are aspects of wisdom, 'daughters' affections for good, and 'flocks' genuine good. These are what belong to the internal Church; but 'children' are aspects of simplicity, 'sons' affections for truth, and 'herds' external good, these being what belongs to the external Church.