7976. 'Went up with them' means which were joined on. This is clear from the meaning of 'going up with them', when said of forms of good and truths, as the fact that they were joined on. For with a spiritual person truths and forms of good that are not genuine are indeed separated from the forms of good and the truths which are genuine; but they are not taken away. They remain, joined on at the sides, where they have been cast, 7975. A similar situation exists with the Lord's Church among gentile nations in possession of truths that are not genuine. Those nations in heaven too are joined on to those who are in possession of genuine truths and forms of good.