10234. 'And Jehovah spoke to Moses, saying' means perception as a result of enlightenment from the Lord through the Word. This is clear from the meaning of 'Jehovah speaking to Moses' as enlightenment from the Lord through the Word, dealt with in 10215; and from the meaning of 'saying' as perception, dealt with in 2862, 3509, 5743, 8660. It should be remembered that when some new matter, distinct from what has gone before, is to be presented the words Jehovah spoke to Moses are used, as at verses 11, 17, 22, 34 of the present chapter, and also elsewhere. The new matter that is being presented now has regard to purification from evils and falsities.

8660. 'And he said to Moses' means influx and resulting perception. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying', when Divine Good addresses Divine Truth regarding the arrangement of truths, as influx; and since influx is meant, perception is also meant because perception arises as a result of influx. For the meaning of 'saying' as influx on the part of the one who acts, and perception on the part of the one who receives, see 5743.