5513. And we said unto him, We are upright; we are no spies. That this signifies denial that they were in truths for the sake of gain, is evident from the signification of “saying unto him,” as being a reply, here denial; and from the signification of “we are upright,” as being that they were in truths which in themselves are truths (see n. 5434, 5437, 5460); and from the signification of “spies,” as being those who are in the truths of the church for the sake of their own advantage, here meaning that it was not for this.