5913. 'And your flocks, and your herds' means natural good, interior and exterior. This is clear from the meaning of 'flock' as interior good, dealt with in 2566, in this case interior natural good since the flocks belonged to Israel, who represents spiritual good from the natural, 5906; and from the meaning of 'herd' as exterior natural good. The reason why 'herd' means exterior good and 'flocks' interior good is that the animals which constituted a herd, such as oxen and young bulls, were signs, when used in sacrifices, of external forms of the good of charity and also of the forms of good present in the external man. But the animals constituting flocks, such as lambs, sheep, she-goats, were signs of internal forms of the good of charity and also of the forms of good present in the internal man. Consequently people in whom these forms of good are present are referred to in the Word by the single term 'flock', and the one who leads them by the term 'pastor' or 'shepherd'.

7663. 'With our flocks and with our herds we shall go' means those governed by good, interior and exterior. This is clear from the meaning of 'flocks' as interior good, and of 'herds' as exterior good, dealt with in 5913, 6048. The words in this verse, saying that they would go with their children and old people, sons and daughters, and flocks and herds, are used to mean in the internal sense everything that belongs to the Church, both the external Church and the internal. What belongs to the external Church is meant by 'children', 'sons', and 'herds', and what belongs to the internal Church by 'old people', 'daughters', and 'flocks'; for 'old people' are aspects of wisdom, 'daughters' affections for good, and 'flocks' genuine good. These are what belong to the internal Church; but 'children' are aspects of simplicity, 'sons' affections for truth, and 'herds' external good, these being what belongs to the external Church.