5012. 'And said to them - she said' means an urgent demand. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' here as an urgent demand, for in the internal sense 'saying' means perception, 2862, 3395, 3509, and also communication, 3060, 4131. Here therefore, because the expression 'she cried' is used, followed by 'said - she said', a communication delivered with intense feeling, that is, an urgent demand to listen, is meant.

3060. 'He said' means communication. This becomes clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical parts of the Word as perceiving and willing, often dealt with already. And as it means these it also means communicating since communication followed from perceiving and willing.