3032. 'Abraham said to him' means the Lord's perception coming from the Divine. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' as perceiving, dealt with above in 3029, and from the representation of 'Abraham' as the Lord as regards the Divine Human, from which that perception came.

In Jeremiah 15:12, this signifies what is sensuous and natural. (Arcana Coelestia 426[2])