7198. 'And also I have heard the groaning of the children of Israel' means their distress arising from conflict. This is clear from the meaning of 'the groaning' as distress arising from conflict; and from the representation of 'the children of Israel' as those belonging to the spiritual Church, who are molested by falsities and therefore involved in conflict.

8041. 'And Jehovah spoke to Moses, saying' means instructions given by the Divine. This is clear from the meaning of 'speaking' and 'saying', when Jehovah talks about things of the Church that are to be observed, as instructions, dealt with in 7769, 7793, 7825, and - since Jehovah is the speaker - as instructions given by the Divine; and from the representation of 'Moses' as God's truth, dealt with in 6771, 7014, 7382. So it is that 'Jehovah spoke to Moses, saying' means instructions given by the Divine through Divine Truth.