4578. 'And God went up from over him in the place where He talked to him' means the Divine within that state. This is clear from the meaning of 'God going up from over him' as the Divine, for 'going up' implies a raising up to more interior aspects, and when used in connection with the Lord, to whom 'God' refers here, a raising up to the Divine, 4539; and from the meaning of 'the place where He talked to him' as that state. 'Place' means state, see 2625, 2837, 3356, 3387, 4321, and therefore 'the place where He talked to him' means the state that He was passing through.

2233. That 'house' means people governed by goods is clear from the meaning of 'house' as good, dealt with in 710, 1708, 2048. In a similar way 'house', or those born in the house, means in the abstract sense goods, but when used in reference to man it is all who are governed by goods.