Arcana Coelestia # 6228
6228. 'And Jacob said to Joseph' means a communication of the truth of the natural with the internal. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' as perception, dealt with above in 6220, and also communication, dealt with in 3060, 4131, for What is perceived by another is something communicated to him; from the representation of 'Jacob' as the truth of the natural, dealt with just above in 6223; and from the representation of 'Joseph' as the internal, also dealt with above, in 6224.
Arcana Coelestia # 6223
6223. 'And [someone] told Jacob' means a discernment by the truth of the natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'telling' as discernment, dealt with in 3608, 5601; and from the representation of 'Jacob' as the truth of the natural, dealt with in 3305, 3509, 3525, 3546, 3599, 3775, 4009, 4234, 4520, 4538, 6001.