62. The Son from eternity was the Divine Human from eternity, and was also the Divine Proceeding from which is heaven, thus the Divine forming heaven. This is evident from the Lord's words that they neither saw nor heard the Father and that all things were done by means of the Divine Truth. It is said, too, that the Lord appeared as a man before the sons of Israel, and was seen with, as it were, a sapphire under the soles of his feet and heaven as to clearness [Exodus 24:10]. Further it is said "this day have I begotten thee." The Lord also said "Such as I was with thee from the foundation of the world." In Daniel it is stated that He was also the Son of man, and the Lord became so as to the Human. In Luke, too, he is called the Son of God, for it is said that the Word was made flesh. Hence it is evident that it was the one and the same Divine.