'The children of Israel,' in Isaiah 14:2, signify the Gentiles.

In Jeremiah 23:8, 'Israel' represents the spiritual natural church.

(Odkazy: Apocalypse Explained 768)

8704. 'Be for the people with God' means truth coming forth directly from the Lord. This is clear from the meaning of 'being for the people with God' - when said in reference to Divine Truth, represented by 'Moses' - as that which exists nearest the Lord, because it comes forth directly from Him. What this implies will be evident from what follows immediately below.