8055. 'Which He swore to your fathers to give you' means which the Divine promised to those governed by goodness and truth. This is clear from the meaning of 'swearing', when done by Jehovah, as unchangeable confirmation from the Divine, 2842, 3375, so that 'swearing to give' means a promise; and from the meaning of 'fathers' as those governed by goodness and truth, for when the Church is the subject 'fathers' means the ancients, that is, the Ancient Churches, which were governed by goodness and truth, 6050, 6075, 6589, 6876, 6884, 7649.

2862. 'That it was pointed out to Abraham, saying' means the Lord's perception. This becomes clear from the meaning of 'being pointed out' as thought and reflection, and of 'saying' as perceiving, often dealt with already. The Lord's reflection and perception, dealt with in the internal sense of the Word, cannot be expressed in any other way in historical narratives than as 'being pointed out' and 'laying'. Furthermore reflection and perception in itself is an internal pointing out and saying.