Arcana Coelestia # 5546
5546. 'And he said, My son shall not go down with you' means that it will not move down towards inferior things. This is clear from the meaning of 'going down' as an expression used of movement towards inferior things, dealt with in 5406, in this case towards truths existing as factual knowledge in the exterior natural, 5492, 5495, 5497, 5500. Which are represented by 'the sons of Jacob'.
Arcana Coelestia # 5500
5500. 'And also behold, it is in my pouch' means its presence in the exterior natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'the pouch' as the exterior natural, dealt with just above in 5497.