3558. 'Isaac said to Jacob' means perception concerning this natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' as perceiving, dealt with already, and from the representation of 'Jacob' as the truth of the natural, though at this point simply the natural. He represents simply the natural because he also apparently represented what Esau represented. That is, he adopted an outward appearance like Esau's - thereby representing the good of the natural, which is 'Esau' - and also produced venison like Esau's, which is the truth that is acquired by this good, 3501. The reason why the phrase 'he said' is used so many times is that something new, or a new perception, begins, see 2061, 2238, 2260.

2061. 'God said to Abraham' means perception. This is clear from the meaning of the expression used in the historical sense - God saying - which in the internal sense means perceiving, dealt with already in 1791, 1815, 1819, 1822, 1898, 1919. Because a different subject is taken up at this point - namely the things meant by the names 'Sarai' and 'Sarah', as well as by the promise of a son borne by Sarah, and by Ishmael's being a great nation in the future - it is introduced by a new perception which the Lord had, expressed here, as in many other places, by the words 'God said to Abraham'.