7016. 'And said [to him], I will go, I beg you, and return to my brothers who are in Egypt' means being raised to more internal and more spiritual life in the natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'going and returning' as a further state of life, and the further state of life here consists in being raised to more internal and more spiritual life, thus life closer to the Divine, for in reference to the Lord, whom 'Moses' represents, 'going and returning' is used to mean being raised to the Divine Being (Esse) or Jehovah, who was within Him and from whom He came; from the representation of the children of Israel, to whom 'brothers' refers here, as the Lord's spiritual kingdom and consequently the spiritual Church, dealt with in 6426, 6637; and from the meaning of 'Egypt' as the natural, dealt with in 6147, 6252. From all this it is evident that 'I will go, I beg you, and return to my brothers who are in Egypt' means being raised to more internal and more spiritual life in the natural. For just as Moses' dwelling in Midian meant life with those who are guided by the truth that goes with simple good, and so are governed by simple good, 7015, so now his dwelling with the children of Israel means life with those who are guided and governed by the truth and good of the spiritual Church, which is more internal and more spiritual than the former life. Regarding the fact that the good and truth of that Church are in the natural, see 4286, 4402.

5301. 'Which there will be in the land of Egypt' means which will exist in the natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'the land of Egypt' as the natural mind, dealt with in 5276, 5278, 5279, 5288. The expression 'the natural' is used here and in other places, and by it the natural mind is meant. For the human being has two minds, the rational mind and the natural mind. The rational mind belongs to the internal man, whereas the natural mind belongs to the external man; and it is the natural mind or external man that is meant when simply 'the natural' is used. The mind is a person's true self, as will be seen in what is spoken about next.