'Edom' or 'Idumea,' as in Isaiah 34:5, signifies people who are in evil and falsities derived there.

(参考: The Inner Meaning of the Prophets and Psalms 34)

5106. 'And Joseph said to them' means the celestial of the natural. This is clear from the representation of 'Joseph' as the celestial of the natural, dealt with above in 5086.