3032. 'Abraham said to him' means the Lord's perception coming from the Divine. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' as perceiving, dealt with above in 3029, and from the representation of 'Abraham' as the Lord as regards the Divine Human, from which that perception came.

In John 17:19, this signifies that He made Himself Divine by His own power. (Arcana Coelestia 9229[2])

In Exodus 30:29, this signifies the influx and presence of the Lord in the worship of the representative church. (Arcana Coelestia 10, 276)