4892. 'And they said' means perception received from truths. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical descriptions of the Word as perceiving, dealt with in 1791, 1815, 1819, 1822, 1898, 1919, 2080, 2619, 2862, 3509. Perception received from truths is meant because it was 'the men of the place' who spoke - 'the men of the place' meaning truths, see just above in 4889.

1822. That 'He said to him' means perception is clear from what has been stated above at verses 2 and 7. Perception itself is nothing else than a certain form of conversing that takes place inwardly, but which makes itself known whenever the spoken word is grasped perceptively. Every form of inward dictate, even conscience, is nothing else; but perception is a higher or more interior degree of it.