Ishmael
'Ishmael' signifies the Lord's merely human rational and rationality separate from good.
In Genesis 25:12, 'Ishmael' signifies the spiritual church.
(Referenties: Arcana Coelestia 1944)
Exodus 33:12-14
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Moses said to Yahweh, "Behold, you tell me, 'Bring up this people:' and you haven't let me know whom you will send with me. Yet you have said, 'I know you by name, and you have also found favor in my sight.'
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Now therefore, if I have found favor in your sight, please show me now your ways, that I may know you, so that I may find favor in your sight: and consider that this nation is your people."
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He said, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest."