In Isaiah 29:9, the phrase 'to be drunken without wine' points to people who don't care about the Word or the truths of faith, and thus have no inclination to know any thing about faith. (Arcana Coelestia 1072[6])

(Referenties: Arcana Coelestia 1072 [1-6]; Isaiah 29)

6683. 'And the midwives said to Pharaoh' means a discernment regarding that true factual knowledge in the natural. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical narratives of the Word as a discernment, dealt with often; from the meaning of 'the midwives' as true factual knowledge in the natural, dealt with just above in 6681; and from the representation of 'Pharaoh' as false factual knowledge in general, also dealt with above, in 6679, 6681.