3292. 'And Jehovah said to her' means perception from the Divine. This is clear from what has just been stated, and also from the meaning of 'saying' as perceiving, dealt with in 1791, 1815, 1819, 1822, 1898, 1919, 2080, 2506, 2515, 2552, so that 'Jehovah's saying' is perceiving from the Divine.

'Ishmael' signifies the Lord's merely human rational and rationality separate from good.

In Genesis 25:12, 'Ishmael' signifies the spiritual church.

(Referenties: Arcana Coelestia 1944)