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Genesis 42:23

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23 And they knew not that Joseph understood them; for he spake unto them by an interpreter.

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Arcana Coelestia # 5445

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5445. 'And Joseph said to them' means perception regarding that matter, that is to say, those things spoken by his brothers. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical narratives of the Word as perceiving, dealt with in 1791, 1815, 1819, 1822, 1898, 1919, 2080, 2619, 3509.

  
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