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Genesis 18:29

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29 And he continued yet to speak with him, and said, Perhaps there may be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for the forty's sake.

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Arcana Coelestia #2192

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2192. That 'he said' means perception is clear from the meaning in the historical sense of 'saying' as perceiving, dealt with already in 1898, 1919, 2080.

  
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