7523. Et elle sera sur l'homme et sur la bête, signifie qui proviennent du mal intérieur et du mal extérieur : on le voit par la signification de l'homme, en ce qu'il est l'affection du bien, et dans le sens opposé la cupidité du mal, pareillement la bête ; mais quand' l'homme et la bête sont nommés, l'homme signifie l'affection ou la cupidité intérieure, et la bête l'affection ou la cupidité extérieure, voir numéro 7424 : le bien intérieur et aussi le mal intérieur, qui sont signifiés par l'homme, sont les choses qui appartiennent à l'intention ou à la fin, car l'intention ou la fin est l'intime de l'homme ; mais le bien extérieur et aussi le mal extérieur, qui sont signifiés par la bête, sont les choses qui appartiennent à la pensée, et par suite à l'action, quand il n'y a pas d'obstacle : si l'extérieur est signifié par la bête, c'est parce que l'homme quant à son homme externe ou naturel n'est absolument qu'une bête, car il jouit des mêmes cupidités et des mêmes voluptés, comme aussi des mêmes appétits et des mêmes sens ; et si l'intérieur est signifié par l'homme, c'est parce que l'homme quant à son homme interne ou spirituel est homme, il y jouit des affections du bien et du vrai, telles qu'elles sont chez les anges dans le Ciel, et parce que par cet homme interne il gouverne son homme naturel ou animal, qui est une bête : que la bête soit l'affection du bien, et dans le sens opposé la cupidité du mal, on le voit numéros 45, 46, 142, 143, 246, 714, 715, 719, 776, 2179, 2180, 3218, 3519, 5198 : ce sont aussi ces choses qui sont signifiées par l'homme et par la bête, dans les passages suivants.

Dans Jérémie :

« Ma colère et mon emportement a été répandu sur ce lieu, sur l'homme et sur la bête. » - Jérémie 7:20.

Dans le Même :

« Je frapperai les habitants de cette ville, et l'homme et la bête ; d'une grande peste ils mourront. » - Jérémie 21:6.

Dans le Même :

« Et il mettra sa terre en désolation, en sorte qu'il n'y ait personne qui y habite ; depuis l'homme jusqu'à la bête ils se sont retirés, ils s'en sont allés. “ - Jérémie 50:3.

Dans Ézéchiel :

« Quand une terre aura péché contre Moi, en prévariquant la prévarication, j'en retrancherai homme et bête. » - Ézéchiel 14:13, 19, 21.

Dans le Même :

« J'étendrai ma main sur Édom, et j'en retrancherai homme et bête, et je la mettrai en dévastation. » - Ézéchiel 25:13.

Dans Zéphanie :

« Je consumerai homme et bête, je consumerai l'oiseau des cieux, et les poissons de la mer, et les scandales avec les impies ; et je retrancherai l'homme de dessus les surfaces de la terre. » - Zéphanie 1:3.

L'homme et la bête signifient le bien intérieur et le bien extérieur dans les passages suivants.

Dans Jérémie :

« Moi, j'ai fait la terre, l'homme et la bête, par ma grande force. » - Jérémie 27:5.

Dans le Même :

« Voici les jours qui viennent, parole de Jéhovah, où j'ensemencerai la maison d'Israël et la maison de Juda, de semence d'homme et de semence de bête. » - Jérémie 31:27.

Dans le Même :

« La terre sera une désolation, en sorte qu'il n'y aura ni homme ni bête. » - Jérémie 32:43.

Dans le Même :

« Dans les villes de Juda, et dans les places de Jérusalem, dévastées, point d'homme, et point d'habitant, et point de bête. » - , - Dans David :

« Ta justice (est) comme les montagnes de Dieu, tes jugements (sont) un grand abîme, l'homme et la bête tu conserves, ô Jéhovah. » - Psaumes 36:7. -Comme l'homme et la bête ont signifié de telles choses, c'est pour cela que les premiers-nés des Égyptiens, tant des hommes que des bêtes, sont morts. » - Exode 12:29.

Et pour cela que

« les premiers-nés, tant de l'homme que de la bête, ont été sanctifiés. » - Nombres 18:15.

Et aussi pour cela que d'après un rite saint il fut ordonné par le Roi de Ninive que

« tant l'homme que la bête jeûneraient, et seraient couverts de sacs. » - , .

5649. 'And they said, Over the matter of the silver put back in our pouches [at the beginning] are we brought to [this place]' means that because truth in the exterior natural appears to be something freely given, they were being made subservient. This is clear from the meaning of 'the silver put back' as truth freely given, dealt with in 5530, 5624; from the meaning of 'the pouch' as the opening to the exterior natural, dealt with in 5497; and from the meaning of 'brought to' as being linked and made subservient to, dealt with immediately above in 5648.

[2] The implications of all this are as follows: Because it had been perceived that the facts present in the exterior man which held truths within them had been freely given and were therefore being led on to become joined to the internal, which would make them subservient to it, it was consequently perceived that, as stated just above, they would be deprived of their freedom and so of all the delight that life holds within itself. But man has no conception of such a thing, that is to say, of its being perceived that facts holding truths within them can be given freely and that this happens in the natural, in either the exterior part or the interior part of it. The reason he has no conception of this is that he does not enjoy any kind of perception like that, for he does not have the vaguest idea about what is given to him freely, let alone about what is stored away in the exterior natural and what in the interior natural. The common reason why he does not have any perception of this is that his heart is set on worldly and earthly things, not on celestial and spiritual ones, and therefore he has no belief in any influence coming from the Lord by way of heaven and so no belief whatever in the gift of any such things to him. Yet in actual fact all the truth which he arrives at by the use of reason based on factual knowledge and which he imagines he arrives at by his own power of understanding is something that is given to him. And man has even less ability to perceive whether that truth is stored away in the exterior natural or in the interior natural, because he is ignorant of the fact that the natural has two parts, namely an exterior part which leans towards the external senses and an interior part which leans away from these and turns towards the rational.

[3] Since man has no knowledge of any of these matters he cannot have any perception at all regarding such ideas; for acquaintance with a reality must come first if there is to be any perception about it. But angelic communities are properly acquainted with and have a right perception of those matters. They are acquainted with and perceive not only what is given them freely but also in what place this exists, as the following experience makes clear: When any spirit who is moved by good, and therefore has the ability to do so, enters some angelic community, he enters at the same time into all the knowledge and intelligence belonging to this community, which he had not possessed before. At such a time he is not aware of anything different from this - that he was already in possession of such knowledge and understanding, and through his own deliberation. But when he stops to reflect he realizes that it is something freely given him by the Lord through that angelic community. He also knows, from the angelic community where he is, whether that truth exists in the exterior natural or in the interior natural; for there are angelic communities situated in the exterior natural, and there are those situated in the interior natural. But their natural is not like man's natural; rather it is a natural that is spiritual - one that has been made spiritual by having become joined and made subservient to the spiritual.

[4] From all this one may see that the matters mentioned here in the internal sense describe what actually happens in the next life. That is to say, those there are quite aware of what is freely given them and also of where it is stored away, even though man at the present day knows nothing at all about such matters. In ancient times however those who belonged to the Church did know about them; their factual knowledge told them about such matters, and so did their religious teachings. They were people of a more internal frame of mind; but since those times people have become progressively more externally minded, so much so that at the present day they live in the body, thus in what is the most external. A sign of this is seen in the fact that people do not even know what the spiritual is or what the internal is; and they do not believe even in the existence of such realities. Indeed people have moved so far away from things on a more internal level to what is most external within the body that they do not even believe in the reality of a life after death, or in the existence of heaven or hell. Indeed because of their departure from things of a more internal level into what is most external they have become so stupid. So far as spiritual realities are concerned, as to believe that man's life is similar to that of beasts, so that in death man is no different from them. And what is so surprising, the learned believe these kinds of things more than the simple; and anyone whose belief is different from theirs is thought by them to be a simpleton.