5535. 'And Jacob their father said to them' means a perception that came to them from the good of truth. This is clear from the meaning of 'saying' in the historical narratives of the Word as perception, often dealt with already; and from the representation of 'Jacob' as the good of truth, dealt with just above in 5533.

3669. 'And you will be an assembly of peoples' means abundance. This becomes clear without explanation. 'An assembly of peoples' in particular has reference to truths; for 'peoples' in the Word means those who are governed by truth, see 1259, 1260, 2928, 3581, whereas 'nations' means those who are governed by good, 1259, 1260, 1416, 1849. The reason why the phrase 'an assembly of peoples' is used here is that the subject is the good of truth, represented by 'Jacob'; for good that results from truth is one thing, good from which truth stems is another. Good which results from truth is what 'Jacob' represents here, and good from which truth stems is what 'Esau' represents. Good which results from truth is the inverse of good from which truth stems. Good which results from truth is the good that exists with those who are being regenerated before they have been made regenerate; but good from which truth stems exists with the same persons once they have become regenerate. For their state is an inverse one, see 3539, 3548, 3556, 3563, 3570, 3576, 3603.