4864. 'And Judah saw her' means the way in which at that time the semblance of religion existing among the Jewish nation looked on the internal features of the representative Church. This is clear from the meaning of 'seeing' as discerning and understanding, dealt with in 2150, 2325, 2807, 3764, 3863, and so as looking on; from the representation of Tamar, to whom 'her' refers here, as the Church representative of spiritual and celestial things, dealt with in 4829, 4831, at this point as the internal aspect of that Church, for the subject is the way in which it was looked on and accepted by the semblance of religion existing among the Jewish nation; and from the representation of 'Judah' as the Jewish nation specifically, dealt with in 4815, 4842, and from this as the semblance of religion among that nation. For when this nation is mentioned in the Word something to do with that Church is meant in the internal sense. The internal sense has no interest at all in the memorable and historical exploits of a nation, only in what it is like so far as things of the Church are concerned. From this it is evident that 'Judah saw her' means the way in which at that time the semblance of religion existing among the Jewish nation looked on the internal features of the representative Church.